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Wednesday, January 21, 2009

Pronouncing English with Katakana

One of the small benefits of the Japanese language is its syllabic nature, which eliminates some of the nuance of how words are pronounced. I was listening to some music on my iPhone the other day when a song by Dido came up, and I realized that I had no idea how to pronounce her name properly -- was it DIE-doh, or DEE-doh? In Japanese, you'd generally have katakana written above a name which would provide a way for everyone to know with 100% accuracy how it should be pronounced. When I was a boy I loved dinosaurs, and I remember trying to figure out how on Earth you were supposed to pronounce names like diplodocus and acrocanthosaurus properly. This wouldn't be an issue in Japanese, though, since katakana syllables are always pronounced the same way. There are downsides to using a system like katakana for pronunciation, though. When I order Indian food in the U.S. I probably speak with a Japanese accent since I got into Indian curry after arriving in Japan, and to this day I have no idea how to pronounce camembert cheese properly, since I first ate it here.

The talented singer's full name is Dido Florian Cloud de Bounevialle O'Malley Armstrong, by the way

7 Comments:

Blogger John Evans said...

"ca", like "cat" without the "t"; "mem", like "memory"; "bert" with a silent "t" pronounced like "bear" (but, if you can manage it, sultry and French). ;)

Actually, now that I think about it, when said quickly the "mem" sounds more like "mm".

4:05 PM

 
Blogger Cora said...

Well, I don't really agree about the "mem" in camembert. I think it's more like the "man" in "mansion".

I've tried pronouncing camembert with the "mem" like "mem" in "memory" and it only sounds funny to me :D
Like if I had an accent or something.

But I do like the japanese pronounciation... ka... man... be... ru...

9:32 PM

 
Blogger Rune said...

John is spot on with the pronounciation on camembert. I work with dairy products at the supermarket where I am employed and was lucky enough to win a sales competition for the chain, the prize being a trip to France. This included a visit to one of the dairies where they make some of the french cheeses we sell.

Dido is pronounced DIE-do, the source here being MTV/VH1.

11:38 PM

 
Blogger Cora said...

Well... I'm kind of... French myself, so I think I'm kind of right too :D

1:08 AM

 
Blogger Rune said...

I will not argue against a native speaker then. That would be foolish.

I only have the guide at the dairies pronounciation to go by. Maybe he was speaking in a dialect or maybe my memory is sodden. I'll adjust my pronounciation according to your suggestion in the future. Thanks.

1:41 AM

 
Blogger Raw said...

Well, there are multiple accents in french, so both pronunciations could be right.

Anyway, spanish also benefits from standarized pronunciation. It's quite a bother to find a new word in English and not know how to pronounce it.

3:06 AM

 
Blogger Spence/TP said...

I pronounce "Camembert" as John does; it's a key cheese in a Monty Python skit...(^_^)

2:35 PM

 

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